Question of the Week: “Should I Bring My Kids to Las Vegas?”

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Las Vegas Nevada, Grand Canyon GatewayGood morning to all.  I remember a saying from who knows where (a Star Trek movie comes to mind, but don’t quote me on that…), the gist of which was “just because you can do a thing doesn’t necessarily mean you should.”  It applies beautifully to my topic today. 

One of the first things you need to do when planning a Grand Canyon vacation is to decide where your vacation will begin.  If you’re like most visitors to the area, you’ll probably choose to fly to the Southwest, and if so, chances are you’ll start your trip in either Phoenix, Arizona (PHX) or Las Vegas, Nevada (LAS). Both are about a 5 hour drive away from Grand Canyon South Rim and within close proximity of other attractions, such as Hoover Dam, that you could easily stop at along the way. 

I had maybe three separate phone conversations last week with parents (like you perhaps?) who were putting together a Grand Canyon vacation and considering Las Vegas as their starting point.  These folks were wanting an honest opinion as to whether Las Vegas was really a good place to bring their kids, and I had to warn them that they’d stumbled onto one of the most hotly debated issues among Las Vegas locals – I too could be risking life and limb bringing up the very subject of children in what was once considered an “adults only” destination. 

I guess this is the point where a bit of “backstory” is in order: in the late 1980’s/early ‘90’s, a monumental effort (and a large infusion of cash) was made to remake Las Vegas into a more family-friendly destination.  Themed hotels, parks and other attractions were built in an effort to attract more families to the city.  Circus Circus led the way, followed closely by the MirageTreasure Island, Excalibur and Luxor

As a result, many of the newer Las Vegas hotels feature attractions geared to families such as the Shark Reef at the Mandalay Bay, a dolphin habitat and volcano at the Mirage, the pirate show at Treasure Island, rollercoasters at the Stratosphere, New York New York, Sahara and much more.  The Las Vegas Strip has literally turned into a zoo, with many animals (granted, the majority of which are not native to Nevada) occupying outlandish homes in this, the “other” city that never sleeps.  The kings of the “Neon” jungle reside in a specially-built habitat at the MGM Grand, where you might be able to catch them in action with their trainers; Siegfried & Roy’s famous white tigers are pampered 24/7 at the Mirage, or you can escape to a tropical island paradise with over 300 birds, including some rather well-known pink flamingos at – where else? – the Flamingo.  Oh, and Las Vegas does have its own actual zoo – the Southern Nevada Zoological and Botanical Park in North Las Vegas. 

 

All that said, it is up to you as a parent to make an informed choice as to whether you should bring your children to Las Vegas.  Among those who’ve “been there done that,” some will tell you to go for it; others will say “never again.”  Many Las Vegas locals will always assert that Las Vegas should have remained an adult-oriented destination, and if you want to see what they have to say, I would highly recommend visiting the Las Vegas forum on TripAdvisor.com (in fact, I recommend visiting that site to plan your whole trip). 

 

But what’s done is done, and I think the city is a lot more fun as a result!  It has been suggested by people in the area that winter time should be avoided if traveling with children since outdoor pools are typically closed.  Also, those under 21 are not allowed anywhere near a casino.  This is strictly (and sometimes rudely) enforced.  On the street, be prepared to ignore a lot of people handing out adult-oriented leaflets.  You’ll also need to be ready to shield little eyes from a lot of billboards featuring scantily-clad women in provacative poses.  Sorry folks, but that isn’t going away from the Las Vegas scene any time soon.  As Bruce Hornsby once said, “that’s just the way it is!” 

 

For some suggestions on child-appropriate activities in Las Vegas, visit www.lasvegaskids.net.  For some suggestions on Las Vegas hotels where you might want to stay, read this article on About.com giving the Top 10 picks of kid-friendly hotels in Las Vegas.  Oh, and while I’m at it, I would like to give a belated “Welcome” to a new member of our blogroll, “Mercurial Mike,” a Las Vegas insider and the author of an excellent blog called “What’s Happening, Vegas?”   Check it out for news, reviews, opinions, observations, updates and more – all about Las Vegas! 

 

And if you’d like more first-hand testimony, GrandCanyon.com’s associates visit Las Vegas regularly, so don’t hesitate to give us a call!  

 

Happy Travels,

 

Alley Kaye

 

P.S.  A Las Vegas Grand Canyon tour is a great experience for the whole family, and since most tours do not require any strenuous activity, young children and even seniors can enjoy them.  Some tours can even get you to the bottom of the canyon! 

 

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“Hello, GrandCanyon.com? I Can’t Find the Grand Canyon!”

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Some things about the Grand Canyon never cease to amaze me…. well, the Grand Canyon never ceases to amaze me, but that’s a given. :)   What amazes me is that in this day and age of information on demand, MapQuest, Google Earth, et al., I still continue to field questions from folks having difficulty locating Grand Canyon National Park on a map.  I guess it stands to reason in a way as the Grand Canyon lies in one of the last areas of the US to be mapped; Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument up near Lake Powell and Bryce Canyon is another such area.

In fact, in the news recently, you may have heard about the passing of a gentleman named Bradford Washburn.  He mapped the Grand Canyon using techniques that were unheard of at the time (the late 1970’s).  According to the St. Paul Pioneer Press, he used “lasers and reflecting prisms to measure contour and depth” (read the full article), eventually producing two Grand Canyon maps, one of the inner canyon and one of the center.  But the fact that this was accomplished as recently as the 1970’s just goes to prove how challenging an environment the Grand Canyon is and always will be.  

Speaking of articles, last week, I posted an article on ArticleFeeder.com that addresses the lingering difficulty of locating the Grand Canyon and gives a complete list of my personal favorite tips and tricks to mapping the Grand Canyon accurately.  So am I gonna give ‘em all out here, too?  Actually, I already have.  Several times in fact.  If this sort of info is what you need right now, check out the article on Article Feeder.com under the “Travel and Leisure” section, or click here and you’ll get right to it.  Heck, if you just need a Grand Canyon map, there’s a ton of ‘em on our maps page.  If you want the Grand Canyon Village map, we’ve got that.  Want a map of Northern Arizona?  We’ve got that.  Las Vegas Strip?  Ditto.  Downtown Phoenix?  Got it. 

I will say this, though: my favorite mapping site is Yahoo! Maps.  Google Earth is pretty cool, too.  What I like about Yahoo! Maps (the new version) is the fact that mapping someone’s entire vacation from point A to B to C to D (and even E and F!) is really easy (especially when you know the local airport codes), and that’s important to me because I know so many of you are visiting the Grand Canyon as part of a Grand Circle Loop itinerary. 

Oh, here’s another thing: if you map your trip online, make sure you do a “reality check” of the roads you get routed on.  There’s a lot of dirt roads out here, and some mapping sites may inadvertantly route you down one because it’s simply the shortest route from point A to point B.  This happens frequently in our area with the Cottonwood Canyon Road, an unpaved road north of Lake Powell that follows the Paria River for a distance, eventually ending at the beautiful Kodachrome Basin

The Cottonwood Canyon Road is VERY scenic, and most of the time, not too terribly bad, though some washboard action is to be expected.  If you try to map the drive from Lake Powell to Bryce Canyon, chances are, you’d get routed down this road.  Unfortunately, this road is prone to washouts due to flash flooding, and it’s also not recommended for large trucks, busses, etc.  Apparently a few semis have had to be rescued from this road.  I’ve even rescued some people off this road who didn’t know what they were getting into.  So make sure you know what you’re getting into before you “ease on down the road.” 

WHEN IN DOUBT, CHECK IT OUT.  Learn that phrase and don’t be afraid to use it!

‘Til next time, Happy Travels! ~ Alley Kaye :)  

Same Time Last Year: Memories of Grand Canyon West

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This morning dawned cold, gray and windy at the Grand Canyon.  Snow is predicted for later on today, which I’ll believe when I see.  Otherwise, this morning is almost a carbon copy of what it was almost exactly this time last year.  A couple of big differences: this time last year I was in Las Vegas, wondering what the heck I was doing on an airplane on a day like this, but, there I was, winging it over Hoover Dam, making my first trip to “Grand Canyon West”! 

Here’s an excerpt from my personal blog entry after that trip:

If you’ve been to the Grand Canyon at all in years past, I’ll bet your visit happened kind of like The author at Grand Canyon West this: you stood at the edge, took a look down, and thought, “man, I’ve gotta get to the bottom of this thing!”  So you asked around how to go about it and you soon found out that getting to the bottom of the Grand Canyon was HARD. 

For most it boils down to two choices: 1. sit on a mule  for two days (which you have to plan your life a year ahead for) or 2. hike 18 miles  - 10 of those miles uphill!  You also had to plan ahead to get lodging or camping at the bottom of the canyon.  A 3rd choice is take a helicopter to Havasu Falls… (fun, but pricey).  a 4th is to take a Grand Canyon white water rafting trip, which usually requires a 4-day minimum commitment of your time (with one exception).  Long story short, getting to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and back in a day was basically not an option for the average working person.  Well, three words are changing all that as we speak: Grand Canyon West.

I’ve been to the bottom of the Grand Canyon the hard way.  I’ve ridden the mules to Phantom Ranch and I’ve gotten there under my own steam, from both the North and South Rims.  In both cases, the trip took a rewarding but exhausting two days.  To this day, making the North to South Rim hike is one of the proudest accomplishments of my whole life.  This time, however, we were getting to the bottom of the canyon and back in a fraction of the time, and the beauty part, with very little exertion. 

Our day began bright and early at the Sahara, when we boarded our shuttle bus for the North Las Vegas Airport (editor’s note: most Las Vegas Grand Canyon Tours now originate from the Boulder City Municipal Airport).  I knew we were in for an adventure, and I was right!  We boarded our 19-passenger Twin Otter Vistaliner and off we went, eastward over the stark, shadowy landscape of the Nevada Desert en route to the Hualapai Indian Nation . 

Soon, we were over Lake Mead, one of the world’s largest man-made lakes.  On this particular morning, the waters were a beautiful, sparking blue-green color that particular morning.  Other times I’ve seen it, the water’s been navy blue, almost black.  It just depends on the light, which on that day was a dramatic contrast of ominous clouds pierced by stray sunbeams, reminiscent of an Ed Mell painting. 

Next, the Hoover Dam  came into view.  Even from this far up, you can see the distinctive art-deco lines of this engineering marvel that unbelievably dates back to the 1920’s.  We swing back over Lake Mead again, and just as the twinkling waters below the aircraft are about to hypnotize me, we hit the first big bump - a telltale sign that our destination, the Grand Canyon, is just up ahead. 

Turbulence is a fact of life up here.  Think of it as part of the adventure.  Wind behaves much like water in this kind of terrain.  Like water rises and falls when it flows over boulders in a riverbed, wind rises and falls as it encounters mountains and cliffs like those around us.  We cross a pointy, angular uplift in the earth.  The land rises up in front of us, and the blue-green waters of Lake Mead morph into the brownish-red Colorado River . 

Our pilots fight crosswinds as we prepare to land at the Hualapai Airstrip.  The plane rocks back and forth as our crew tries to land the Otter.  No go.  We pull back up – whoooooooooaaaa Nelly! – and swing back around for another try.  Second time’s a charm.  We disembark, glad to be on solid ground. 

After getting my bearings, I can’t believe what I’m seeing.  I’d actually been here years ago and had flown over the area many times.  Back then, there was a whole lot of nothing out here.  The occasional Cessna or Piper would flit in and out, ferrying Grand Canyon river rafters back to civilization.  Now, there’s a developing visitor services complex manned by members of the Hualapai Nation.  The terminal features a small gift shop, cafe and tour desk.  Several helicopter companies operate here, and that’s what we were off to do next. 

After a brief but thorough orientation, we boarded a helicopter for the ultimate thrill-ride – 4,000 feet down to the bottom of the Grand Canyon!  This part of the trip was the most fun – just like the IMAX Movie , except it’s all for real.  From a helicopter, you can see the various formations up close and personal, down to tiny little details, like a little creosote bush that manages to survive on a slab of seemingly solid rock, or a raven’s nest tucked into the crags of a cliffwall.  This ten minute ride was better than any roller coaster! 

We set down on a helipad on a rise just above the Colorado River, where a pontoon boat was waiting for us.  We made our way down a short dirt trail, then a couple flights of stairs, then a small but steep ramp.  I was glad that I chose to wear tennis shoes instead of boots, and make a note to warn people that this is the only potentially strenuous part of the day.  Time to go cruisin’, Grand Canyon West style!  

We motored briefly up the channel, then floated back.  Our friendly river guide shared the history of the National Park, and its relationship to the many Native people who have called it home.  Down on the river, I totally forgot myself, forgot that I had a camera and should have been snapping pictures.  Maybe it was because of the clouds and the moisture, but on that particular day, the reds were richer, the greens were deeper.  The gorge is a little shallower at this end, and the channel is narrower, but I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: it is no less beautiful than the areas upstream – just different. 

After about thirty minutes on the water, we bade our guide “farewell” and headed back up the stairs for another helicopter ride that was a blast and a half, this time – goin’ up!  Back on top, it was time to switch modes of transport again.  We climbed aboard a motorcoach for a tour of the canyon rim, stopping first at Eagle Point, so named for the appearance of an eagle in flight in the rock face to the east. 

This place is also the future home of the Grand Canyon Skywalk , a horseshoe-shaped, glass-lined walkway where you’ll be able to walk 70 feet out over the Grand Canyon, and all you can see between you and the Colorado River is … a lot of air!  For months, I’ve been answering incredulous e-mails, usually accompanied by the artist’s rendering, always asking “is this for real?”  In mid-2006 it should be (editor’s note: since then, the opening of the Skywalk has been delayed several times.  Current estimates put opening in early 2007).  

We continue to Guano Point, which is named for a now-defunct mining operation.  Here, we sat down to lunch of barbecue beef, corn bread and veggies with the Grand Canyon providing our ”ambiance.”  Gourmet fare?  Nope.  But the view sure couldn’t be beat!  After lunch, it was time to head back to the airstrip, where our plane was waiting to whisk us back to Las Vegas. 

Unbelievably, I actually dozed off momentarily on the trip back.  I was overwhelmed.  I couldn’t believe I’d actually been to the bottom of the Grand Canyon – and back – in a day!  And what a day it had been.  But that was just it – it hadn’t really been “a day” at all.  We did all this incredible, amazing stuff – the plane flight, TWO helicopter flights, the raft trip, the rim tour, the barbecue - in about six hours; that’s HALF a day! 

Back at the airport, we waved goodbye to our fellow Voyagers as they boarded shuttle buses back to their various hotels.  We met up with our boss at Pumi Oriental Restaurant  for a late ”2nd lunch” of miso soup and tiger rolls.  Too bad we couldn’t have stayed another day.  That tour had us back in time to take a nap, freshen up, maybe go out and do some karaoke.  Some of us had to be at work the next day, so we hit the road back to Page, America .  Oh well.  We’ll do some karaoke next time.  Know any good places? 

A cool thing – well, a couple of ‘em actually – are that this trip runs year-round, weather permitting, making it possible to actually have a Grand Canyon rafting experience in wintertime.  Also, there are no rapids on that stretch of the river, so kids as young as 3 or 4 can do this trip no problem.  As long as you can make it up and down the stairs, you’ll be fine.  AND: though the tour I described above took off from Las Vegas, you can do this exact same tour out of Grand Canyon South Rim, too.  Watch a video right now

Sound like fun?  Book your seat now

Stay tuned – it’s “beginning to look a lot like Christmas” at many Grand Canyon hotels! 

Alley K :)

"Grand Canyon West" or "The West Rim of the Grand Canyon?" Grand Canyon Terminology Today

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Boy, the times they are a-changing.  What am I going on about today?  Well…for those of you planning  visits to the Grand Canyon here in the near future, a friendly heads up: you’re going to Grand Canyon National Parkhear a couple of expressions bandied about as you plan your vacation.  You may be tempted to think they refer to the same place, and that’s not always going to be the case.  These are “Grand Canyon West” and “the West Rim.” 

Back in the late 1980’s when I first arrived at the Grand Canyon, whenever you said “the west rim,” you were talking about the two-lane road just off Grand Canyon Village on the South Rim.  Like its name suggests, this road extends for 8 miles in a westerly direction from the Village to various (and stunning) overlooks of the Grand Canyon.  One such very famous viewpoint that this road goes to is Hopi Point, which is popular with visitors hoping to catch that ultimately mind-blowing Grand Canyon sunset.  My personal favorite is the Abyss – you really see the depth of the gorge from there in a very in-your-face way, IMHO.  At the end of the road is a place called Hermit’s Rest, a really neat old building which houses a gift shop and snack bar.  Like many other buildings in the park, Hermit’s Rest was designed by Mary Jane Elizabeth Colter.  More on her later – but anyway, because of that, the West Rim Drive is also referred to by some locals as the “Hermit Road.”

The West Rim Drive/Hermit Road was built (correct me if I’m wrong people!) a bit after the turn of the 20th century, back in the day (BITD) when not many cars actually made it up to the Grand Canyon.  Of course, the ensuing decades brought more and more cars, eventually necessitating the closure of the West Rim drive to private vehicles during the lazy hazy crazy days of summer…and eventually that closure would extending from late spring through early winter.  Now, the National Park Service provides an easy-to-use free shuttle to those viewpoints during that time, and the in-park concessionaire, Xanterra South Rim LLC provides a guided bus tour to that area year-round. 

In the late-1990’s, another phrase began to circulate around: ”Grand Canyon West.”  Now, I had actually flown over that area many times back in the 1980’s.  Then, what would later become Grand Canyon West was a little airstrip on the Hualapai Indian Reservation almost smack dead center between Las Vegas and the South Rim (as the crow flies).  Back then, there was a whole lot of NOTHING out there.  Not so anymore.

Today, Grand Canyon West is a developing visitor service complex manned by members of the Hualapai Indian Tribe.  It has an airport, cafe, gift shop, tour desk, and several helipads that they lease to various Grand Canyon helicopter tour operators.  Those helicopters take people down to the bottom of the Grand Canyon for short pontoon boat trips or just for a look-see.  They’ve also built an Indian Village and some stables for horseback trips.  

Grand Canyon West also has a work in progress that a lot of folks are excited about, the Grand Canyon Skywalk, a horseshoe shaped glass bridge that will stick out past the canyon rim about 70 feet.  This walkway will be cantilevered, which means no struts or support beams will be visible to whoever’s standing on it – just hundreds of feet of air between them and the Colorado River below!  It was supposed to open this year, but construction delays and design revisions have pushed that day back to January of 2007.

Are the views of the Grand Canyon different between the two places?  Very.  The South Rim is at 7,000′; Grand Canyon West is at about 4,000′.  The views of the Grand Canyon from the South Rim are more vast, sweeping and panoramic than those at Grand Canyon West.  The rock formations on the South Rim also run the full spectrum of color (from red to purple and just about everything in between) whereas Grand Canyon West is more muted and earth-toned.  The South Rim is covered by a thick pine forest; Grand Canyon West is more of a true desert landscape (which means it’s hotter than a pistol in summertime). 

The Colorado River is more easily seen from Grand Canyon West by virtue of it being lower in altitude.  Grand Canyon West’s views are more stark and vertical, and mostly devoid of guardrails, too, prompting some visitors to crawl to the edge on all fours to take a picture.  Grand Canyon West is also a much smaller area than the South Rim, so there’s less of it to see.  And the main access road out there is still unpaved, so you’ll want to think twice before driving your rented Ford Focus out there.  Talk to us instead about a Las Vegas Grand Canyon tour package. 

At Grand Canyon South Rim, you have 6 hotels inside the park (managed by Xanterra), and 5 more just outside the park in Tusayan.  At Grand Canyon West, there aren’t as quite as many hotels at the moment, and most will be located outside the immediate area.  The Grand Canyon West Ranch is an actual working ranch located near the Grand Canyon West airport.  There are also a few small motels in the nearby communities of Peach Springs (Hualapai Lodge, the Grand Canyon Caverns Inn), and Truxton (the Frontier Motel).  The old Route 66 goes through Peach Springs, too – very cool.

In summary, the South Rim (home of “the West Rim”) and Grand Canyon West are very different places.  A couple of things they do have in common are that they are open year-round, and both places can be visited with an air-ground day excursion from Las Vegas or Phoenix.  In the process of planning your Grand Canyon vacation, you may hear Grand Canyon West referred to as “the West Rim.”  But that phrase was actually used to denote the West Rim Drive of Grand Canyon South Rim long before Grand Canyon West came to be.  I guess old habits die hard!  After all, most of us at GrandCanyon.com have lived in the area for 20 years, some were even born and raised here.     

The terminology is a potential source of confusion if you’re unfamiliar with the area.  If you’re not sure which place is being discussed, please ask.  A phrase you’ll want to add to your vocabulary as you plan your vacation: when in doubt, check it out.  But in general, when we (GrandCanyon.com) talk about ”the West Rim,” we too will be referring to the West Rim Drive on the South Rim.  When we talk about the area over on the Hualapai Reservation, we call it “Grand Canyon West.”

Which one should you choose?  …. We’ll talk about that on another post. :)   As usual, I’ve rambled on too long!  Not hard to do about my favorite subject.

L8R – Alley Kaye

P.S.  Hey, speaking of the West Rim Drive/Hermit Road, the National Park Service will reopen it to private vehicles on December 1st.  One thing that will be different this year is that Yaki Point and the South Kaibab Trailhead parking lots will remain closed through the winter (they used to reopen those too).  Free shuttle access will continue throughout the winter to those areas.  Overnight hikers will be allowed to park there by permit only.  The Grand Canyon Village shuttle will also continue running year-round.  For more information on Grand Canyon shuttles (and lots of other stuff too!), visit http://www.nps.gov/grca

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